Summer Transfer Window 2015

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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2015

Postby inMotionSLB » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:52 pm

and off topic again... how about Casillas to Porto?? That's a heavy heavy signing
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2015

Postby Stay_Toasty » Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:47 am

Is it really? AS far as a name it is, but as far as play we will see. He has not been very good for club and country for the past few years. Helton i think is about the same level right now so spending a lot of wage on a player like that, when he isnt much of an upgrade and cant be resold is risky. He will bring notoriety to the league but thats about it.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2015

Postby Mdot » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:04 pm

For a bit I thought those were BS but now I believe it. I think he'll be an improvement but I agree that for the salary and how he's been doing in the past couple of years, its a big risk by Porto. Funny how we win two back to back titles, if you now look at how much money Porto and Sporting have been dropping, they trying everything to break our control.

More rumors on Di Maria to PSG which is opening up those rumors on Nico. I would be surprised if these are real but the papers are saying 30million + either Chicharito or Rafael. I've never been a big fan of Rafael but he would give us that extra fullback option which I wouldn't mind seeing. Chicharito would be great, a young striker that has shown some good talent.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2015

Postby miklos-russia » Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:57 pm

Mdot, Chicharito is 27 already. not so young :) but yes, would be great to see him in Benfica!

Don't know a lot about Rafael, coz i don't watch EPL really much, but maybe it's not really important now - will Maxi stay here or not. I think, he was good because he worked with JJ. He won't play better without him.
And Rafael may be a good choice, he is only 25 and a bad player wouldn't play in 170 games for Man Utd i think.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2015

Postby BC/SLB » Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:13 pm

Well Cavaleiro just got sold too as I knew he would be. I guess we can blame this on JJ too right? Lol. There's just no place for our young local talent in the Benfica first team, thats just a fact. Like I said before its LFV who sells them off and puts all faith in foreign players, most of whom quickly turn out to be mercenaries and chase more cash after no time at all. The result? Never any true stability in the Benfica squad.

People will say we got great deals for young players who havent played much, but I'm not so convinced. We can already see that Andre Gomes and Bernardo are worth more than what we sold them for (Valencia have slapped a 75 million release clause on Gomes), and the same may well turn out to be true with Cavaleiro and Cancelo in a couple years.

We've quickly sold off the 4 best recent products of our academy, all 4 of whom could have become first teamers. Of the rest of the B team, who looks ready for being a first teamer this coming season? All of the ones who were ready got sold off!

I find it baffling that a club like Benfica, with such financial issues, and such a limited budget to spend on transfer fees and salaries..doesn't put faith in its talented local youngsters. Kids with loads of talent and crucially who love the club and would accept low salaries. If Benfica need to cash in on them imagine how much more they'd be worth after a couple of seasons of regular first team play. The rest of the people on this particular forum seem not to be too bothered by this issue, but I certainly am alongside a lot of other Benfiquistas. We could have so much more true long term stability at this club if the decisions at the top started to be different.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2015

Postby BC/SLB » Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:56 pm

The (possible) positive thing about Cavaleiro's sale is this may mean the club has every intention of keeping hold of Gaitan. Another winger, Bebe, was also loaned out yesterday, so hopefully this means Nico is staying put. It would be a big bonus for us for next season if he does stay.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2015

Postby miklos-russia » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:54 am

bye maxi
tomorrow you will officially be a traitor.these two (jj and maxi) were my favourites since the beginning. now both of them are in sporting or porto. fucking nonsense.
that will be my last message from this nickname and avatar. it's time to change it all haha
we are a new team now, all is new.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2015

Postby matt34nj » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:43 pm

I can only sit back and laugh as I read about Porto committing 5 million in salary to Casillas (an unheard of wage in Portugal...), and anther 2 million for 31 year old Maxi. Meanwhile, Flopetegui arrogantly brings in more and more Spanish players, while they force Quaresma out the door for peanuts.

Over in JJ land, William Carvalho has a stress fracture and will be out 8-12 weeks. Never one to gloat over an injury, but who the hell dropped the ball there, LOL? We all know the holding MF at the base of the diamond is the key position in JJ's 4-4-2, so they will suffer greatly without him, IMO. I think Sporting will be one big circus act this year...

If DiMaria moves to PSG, Gaitan is likely gone to United. I also think 15 mil was good business for Cavaleiro.

Lastly, I read an interesting article about Djuricic:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2483 ... p-djuricic

I still have hope that he will be a player for us. Lindelof and Jonathan Rodriguez too! Let the preseason games begin, so we can get a looksie at some of these guys!!!
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2015

Postby BC/SLB » Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:49 pm

Yeah "Super Maxi" is soon going to become "Super Public Enemy" at the Luz. Incredible to think that just a few months ago we all considered him to be one of the rare loyal players we have had in the last decade. He's turned out to be far worse than any of the other players who chased the cash in the past because at least they moved to other leagues. For him to join Porto just for more money is unacceptable and clearly shows what kind of morals and principles this guy has.

To me it's far worse than JJ going to Sporting. JJ also betrayed us of course, but he left for the team of his heart, it's no secret that he has always been a Sportinguista, and one can understand how he would have wanted to eventually coach the team of his heart. Maxi is joining our bitterest rivals simply for more $$$$$$, and as a result he will deserve every jeer he gets when he returns to the Luz wearing blue!

Well i both agree and disagree with some of the comments here about Porto. Yes they are spending an awful lot of money on two players who are past their peak, and it's a risk for them. But they are clearly going to become stronger defensively next season with Casillas and Maxi in the team. And let's not forget they already had the best defensive record in the Liga last season.

I for one am slightly concerned about the possibility that they will be stronger than us next season, in all honesty. They have the same coaching staff from last season so will have more stability than us in that regard. We are going to have to get used to a new coach and his staff very quickly, and he has no experience at winning major titles. We haven't lost the players we did last summer of course, but we're still going to lose key guys; Maxi already gone and Gaitan most likely to leave than to stay, Salvio could miss as much as half the season. And so far there hasn't been a very big signing yet, has there? The positive perhaps is that with Porto's bigger transfer activity, they will under bigger pressure than us to deliver next season, and this could suit us. We shall see!
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2015

Postby Mdot » Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:25 pm

Both Porto and Sporting have made very expensive bets, failure will not only hurt them this season but it could for a couple of years. Which makes winning this season that much more important.

I agree with the comments on Nico. Everything points to him going on the North American tour and us no longer needing the cash to sell. If United does sell Di Maria, they will still have to spend big on Nico to get him from us. I honestly think that's the last potential transfer surprise/rumor. I know there are a few more potential players we may sign and send on loan, I can't think of many more names in or out that would have too much of an impact.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2015

Postby matt34nj » Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:03 pm

Do we have a thread up for the PSG game?

It's our first preseason game, and we just arrived in Toronto on Friday. But then again, that extra couple of days in Seixal could have helped get us integrated. All I know is we had a real shitty preseason last year and I think it rocked our confidence a bit. As compared to the year before, when we cruised and dominated and knew we were loaded and ready for a serious run...

Last preseason was a bit of an anomaly, because that terrible paring of Cesar and Sidnei at CB ruined everything and we quickly got blown out every single game...

Anyway, I just want to see who is actually getting minutes... So many midfield options: Cristante, Tarrabt, Carcela, Samaris, Fejsa, Talisca, Djuricic, etc. I just want to see who gets in there. And I really hope to get a nice long look at Guedes and see how he plays with the big boys.

Anybody have any thoughts?
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2015

Postby Mdot » Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:32 am

Had it under the preseason match-line but maybe I should make a separate thread for each match.

What a great game it was considering it was the first time our team played under Rui. Even though PSG already played a preseason game and were in North America a couple extra days earlier, we were clearly the better side when we had our main squad out. Could have easily been 4-1 or 5-1 if those post shots went in.

Once we swapped the full starting 11, it through off our flow and that allowed them to come back on us. Surprised PSG barely made any subs till almost the end. Results doesn't matter at this stage. All that's important is to me is A - Main team looks like they can easily pick up where they left on and take on top talent B - Youth/new players got a good run out on the field

On to the next one! :benficascarf
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2015

Postby matt34nj » Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:55 pm

For a first game, not too bad. Since this is a televised tournament with big name teams, I think that Benfica may have felt obliged to play a lot of regulars-not sure I like that idea. I don't want a key player getting hurt in the preseason.

I saw the old Talisca last night. Free to roam a bit but he still tracked back as needed. And that left foot Jeeeezz!

Eliseu looked fat and slow, and Jardel looked pretty bad too. I was also really disappointed by Ola John. Again he showed nothing and continues to constantly give the ball away cheaply. Sell this guy already, I don't want him anywhere near the XI.

I am curious what anybody else thinks who watched the game...
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2015

Postby Ed Gomes » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:17 pm

I was disappointed with the result. Like others, I felt we dominated the first half and looked very fluid going forward. Not much out in the flanks, but good movement and passing up the middle. That being said, PSG didn't have their main squad out there, so we should have dominated.

My Lowlights;
- Jardel didn't look good at all. I for one would have referred to have seen Cesar in the squad, but it looks as if Lopez and Lindelof, which also looked shaky at best, are going to be the guys.

- Eliseu looks completely out of shape. Didn't show much at all.

- Teixeira looks like a player people will fall in love with, Portuguese with great hustle, but didn't look good enough. A lot of running around with no result and poor give aways. Still young and has worked his way up the ranks, but I don't think he's ready. Should be in the B Squad for further developing.

- Nelson Oliveira just isn't good enough. I don't care if he goes on to score 20 goals in Qatar, China, etc..., he just isn't good enough. Lets get over it. Granted he was in with the mass substitutions, but chances clearly appeared in front of him, and he didn't take them.

- Ola must want out. He showed promise going forward and then would just bomb away, instead of crossing or passing being the better options.

- Almeida also looked poor to me. Maybe it's the porn mustache, but I just don't think he's dependable for regular minutes.

My OK's and/or Could have been better?
- I didn't think Luisao was bad, as reported in some places.

- Silvio looked ok, but didn't get to balls and didn't deliver balls I thought he should have. On a side note, it's sad to see Maxi go to a rival, but I think he got 4 years from Porto. I agree in not matching dollars and years.

- I also thought Lima could have been better. Moved well and got himself in good positions, yet it didn't quite pan out.

My Goods;
- I thought Jonas played really well. He tracked back and supported the midfield while sitting underneath Lima. He was also a presence in finding spaces and releasing players with the initial pass.

- Nico played well and I'm afraid we'll lose him this summer.

- Talisca is a talent, so I don't understand the rush in selling this guy. It could be a quick 15 mil, but why not 25 to 30 mil a year or two from now. He looked really well in delivering the ball and moving without the ball. I know people are clamoring for our youth players, but I don't see anyone stepping into his shoes.

- Thought Samaris played well. Reminded me a bit of Matic, in the way he found the right spot to sit in. Maybe a little more sense of urgency is needed.

I need to remember this was the first game of the preseason. Players will shine verse garbage and fail verse quality, so lets be careful.

Let me add that I'm worried about a player like Taarabt. He's proven to be temperamental, and could become a disruption in the locker room.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window 2015

Postby BC/SLB » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:25 pm

Well I wasn't able to see the game, but have since seen the highlights. It was an encouraging first half display, albeit it against PSG's reserves. And in the second half with all the changes it was obvious there would be a disruption to the pattern.

It was interesting to see Vitoria start with the 4-4-2. Most people, myself included, have been expecting him to change to the 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 that he always played at VG. I actually think for the Champs League, the 4-2-3-1 would be our best formation so I hope he experiments with it in this pre-season.

Pizzi was on the wing right? I wonder if this is Vitoria's plans for him next season? With 3 other attacking central midfielders in the current squad (Talisca, Taarabt and Djuricic), it would seem so. I still expect Djuricic to be loaned out again though, as well as Nelson Oliveira.

I still think we need to sign another quality full back for more cover in that area. I like Silvio but he's very injury prone (apparently he picked up a minor injury in training yesterday). Almeida is dependable but he is more of a squad player, while not much is known about Marcal.

Lastly I think it would be wise to sign a player capable of replacing Gaitan, to cover for the possibility of Nico still being sold before the end of the tranfer window. As the rich clubs get desperate in the last few days of the transfer window, one of them might still match his release clause. If Gaitan was to get sold, without us getting a suitable replacement, I'd be worried. This is why i really liked the idea of Markovic, cos he'd be only on loan for a season and is tried and tested already at our club.
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